tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post1468341203030599696..comments2024-01-25T15:09:03.714-08:00Comments on Whiskey's Place: Will Obama Destroy Israel?Whiskeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-21571588090788234452011-04-13T09:34:24.285-07:002011-04-13T09:34:24.285-07:00Nine-of-Diamonds is right. Obama and his friends ...Nine-of-Diamonds is right. Obama and his friends in the Gramscian New Left loathe the very idea of violence through state action. God bless Antonio Gramsci!!!:<br /><br />http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10982726<br /><br />Besides, it's pretty clear now that Obama doesn't want to do anything more as President after having pushed through Obamacare. Such is the Audacity of Golf:<br /><br />http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/262499/audacity-golf-mark-steynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-62136219932837321342011-04-13T08:06:09.983-07:002011-04-13T08:06:09.983-07:00The Israelis are the best pilots in the world. An...The Israelis are the best pilots in the world. And God is on our side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-2049357037985091372011-04-13T05:34:39.303-07:002011-04-13T05:34:39.303-07:00Not the worst prediction I've read recently, a...Not the worst prediction I've read recently, and it has a certain sci-fi (or skiffy, IYP). Less likely than Spengler's prediction that Bush would invade Iran, which didn't happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-29315061562159542902011-04-13T02:30:39.945-07:002011-04-13T02:30:39.945-07:00Sorry Whiskey, this won't fly (pun intended). ...Sorry Whiskey, this won't fly (pun intended). Military officers are obliged to not follow any orders that are morally objectionable. I did a quick poll around here and "I'd resign my commission first" gets a good workout (along with "you cannot be serious"). It just aint gonna happen. If Zero tried something like this he'd have a massive mutiny on his hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-72296978065055439702011-04-12T11:31:53.262-07:002011-04-12T11:31:53.262-07:00I hereby predict the USA will follow this extremel...I hereby predict the USA will follow this extremely likely course of action, and then top it by launching a few hundred ICMBs at Switzerland. That'll wipe the smug neutrality off their face! The Swiss had some controversial minaret law or something, right? As the defender of all the world's Muslims and oppressed non-Whites, Obama is psychologically incapable of doing anything less.Lawful Neutralnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-26404975587477194372011-04-12T08:06:11.345-07:002011-04-12T08:06:11.345-07:00One hears all sorts of gloom and doom scenarios wr...One hears all sorts of gloom and doom scenarios wrt Israel these days<br /><br />1.Iran's abomb<br />2.Hizbullah missile stock up<br />3.Delegitimization campaign<br />4.Growing anti semitism <br />5.More ships challenging the Gaza blockade ala Mavi Marra<br />6.Palestinians applying for statehood<br />7.The new revolutions have potential to excarbate the underlying tensions of the common folk which have now come to the fore.<br />8.Obama yielding to Arab League ala Libya and consequently entering into war with Israel(as is the main thrust of your piece)<br /><br />All of the above are troublesome but nothing is set in stone<br /><br />To counter my own points above<br /><br />1.Iran is seriously unstable,as Spengler of Asia Times notes that it is dying nation demographically and this Jew hatred and pursuit of nuclear weapons is its one last hope of achieving a leadership role among Muslims.Iran may yet unravel on itself.<br /><br />2.The previous Lebanon war or 2006 was executed in a very incompetent manner by Ehud Olmert.Former Sayeret Matkal commando Benjamin Netanyahu will not be so slack.All the Arab regimes will huff and puff about the Israeli transgressions and genocide against the Lebanese but privately they will heave a sigh of relief that Iran got its nose bloodied.<br />3.The delegitimization campaign is led mostly throught academics and media.Now with tenure ,admin and professor salaries under serious scrunity due to the new austerity measures,youd be surprised how quickly their priorities would change.Ditto for the media with the tanking newspapers and TV viewership.<br />4.This is worrisome but much anti semitism comes from not the native population in Europe and America but with the Muslim,black and Hispanic (look where the Nazis fled to after WWII!)citizens.White anti semitism for most part is really exagerrated SWPL support of Palestinians.Europe may be a lost cause.But in U.S , it can rectified by stopping Muslim immigration stat(already in effect),getting blacks and Hispanics to attend more zionist friendly evangelical congregations(also in effect)<br />5.Israel bungled it last year , I doubt it would do the same this time.I suspect they would let the ships through but confiscate most of goods on board and let the Hamas hold the passengers hostage!<br />6.The only reason Palestinians are able to apply for statehood is that West Bank is a thriving economy.But Israel can point can easily prove that the only reason it is thriving is due to Israeli lenience, the recent terrorist attacks in Jerusalem will give casus belli to halt any economic activity which will bring Palestinians to their knees again...where they belong.<br />8.If ever there would a mutiny among the rank and file of the military ,this could be it.The generals,SecDef and chief of Staff SWPL World Council of Churches/Episopelian types who may have no problem with destroying Israel.But NCOs and below are usually fire breathing evangelical and fiercely Zionist for whom Israels well being is interlinked with America's.I could see resignations and soldiers going AWOL and COs enmasse,the outraged protestors will make anti Vietnam war rallies look like a tea party.Meanwhile Benjamin Netanyahu will make a phone call to Obama and give him a history lesson on Masada , a lecture on Israels defense shield and how he intends to use his nuclear weapons in this scenario.Obama will then have a nervous breakdown even before any attack plans are drawn.Then Samantha Power and Cass Sunstein will be thrown under the bus ala anti Semitic James Jones!<br /><br />I have faith that Israel is here to stay and certainly no pipsqueak pantywaist poser like Obama would make any difference to its existence.RoyBattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-79256194551995652472011-04-12T07:09:46.926-07:002011-04-12T07:09:46.926-07:00Blacks don't hate jews as much as jews hate wh...Blacks don't hate jews as much as jews hate whites.<br /><br />One lame anecdote of blacks "hatred" of jews aside (Malcom X acknowledging Jews help in the culture war but being ungrateful, big woop, like this isn't unexpected of blacks in any situation) jews, fags, feminists and other refuse are incorporated into one of the all-monikers of the left: "people of color". All welcome in the struggle against white oppression and white privilege.NeoconBashernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-29236224737935943152011-04-12T06:28:11.475-07:002011-04-12T06:28:11.475-07:00" no one is Whiter than Jews"
What?
&q..." no one is Whiter than Jews"<br /><br />What?<br /><br />"White Americans ... see themselves as Jews"<br /><br />What?<br /><br />I understand the broader point you are making here and don't really disagree with it - that ordinary whites will tend to identify with Zionism - but this phrasing obscures that, rather than clarifying it.<br /><br />This, for example<br />"most White Americans like Israel more than most American Jews"<br /><br />is true.<br /><br />Anyway I can't imagine the US military being directed against Israel for any reason short of a direct massive Israeli attack. Doesn't matter what Obama wants or doesn't want. Won't happen.Rollorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-32829634738525348532011-04-11T20:30:51.290-07:002011-04-11T20:30:51.290-07:00anaheim ducks rockanaheim ducks rockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-51526726849548739112011-04-11T19:55:56.609-07:002011-04-11T19:55:56.609-07:00I honestly agree with Anonymous # 3. Not a chance...I honestly agree with Anonymous # 3. Not a chance Obama does this, for the following reasons:<br /><br />-He already has a lock on the Black vote regardless of what happens. In an absolute worst case scenario (double dip recession plus $5/gallon gas he will net about 85% of the Black vote, while losing the election due to White moderates defecting. Military action against Israel simply loses him lots of White votes. More than can be made up with cheating. Additionally, most Blacks are ignorant of foreign affairs. Like 0bama himself, they have little ability to conceive of any political issues other than racially-charged domestic ones (the Skip Gates incident, for example, or the Diallo shooting a decade ago). I agree that Blacks generally hate jews, but only a tiny minority of them (the College educated elite like, say, Holder and bell hooks) would care about an invasion of Israel, one way or the other.<br /><br />2. He and the rest of the Gramscian New Left shun violence through state action (union violence and minority hate crimes against whites, of course, are another story). Libya was a desperate buzzer shot, with 0bama's handlers hoping for a quick, clean GW1 war to prop up his poll #'s. Of course, this failed. No way he gets involved in any more wars, barring another terrorist attack before Nov. 2012. <br /><br />3. Even if he was inclined to invade Israel the losses would be heavy. In pre-GW2 war games the IDF handed American forces a nasty beating, with multiple US warships "sunk" and many aircraft "destroyed". Plus, the Palestinians themselves would wind up attacking American forces when they could get away with it and the American Left wouldside with them over 0bama.<br /><br />At most his flunkies write a couple "humanitarian reports" about how horrible Israel is to the Palestinians, and perhaps dispatch American "observers" to try and meddle with Israeli affairs. A "No Fly Zone", however, is out of the question.Nine-of-Diamondsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-68535402030250647192011-04-11T18:15:54.320-07:002011-04-11T18:15:54.320-07:00Sunstein's got by the way, the same Aphrodisia...Sunstein's got by the way, the same Aphrodisiac that Henry Kissinger had: POWER. Had he been some no-name drone in some cubicle Power would never have married him.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-28694349612091724872011-04-11T18:14:55.045-07:002011-04-11T18:14:55.045-07:00Let me add, from Obama's perspective it looks ...Let me add, from Obama's perspective it looks good. Make the Military look bad (they'll salute and take orders even though they loathe it). Drive up his popularity among Blacks. Mend fences with Farrakhan, who he NEEDS (to fraud votes, basically, and intimidate Whites from voting).<br /><br />If that was so nutty, WHY did Obama pick Samantha Power as his National Security Advisor, out of all the folks he could have picked? Or cite "R2P" in intervening in Libya? Much less decide very visibly to not go for a win in Libya? Libya is only worth doing if you win quickly, Obama does not even want to win.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-45864636471720122482011-04-11T18:12:04.435-07:002011-04-11T18:12:04.435-07:00Black hatred of Jews is well known. See Rev. Eric ...Black hatred of Jews is well known. See <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/reverend-eric-lees-anti-semitism-a-personal-story-video/" rel="nofollow">Rev. Eric Lee's comments</a> to Daphna Ziman:<br /><br />It was right after the mention of Malcolm X that he looked right at me and started talking about the African American children who are suffering because of the JEWS that have featured them as rapists and murderers.<br />He spoke of a Jewish Rabbi, and then corrected himself to say "What other kind of Rabbis are there, but JEWS". He told how this Rabbi came to him to say that he would like to bring the AA community and the Jewish community together.<br /><br />" NO, NO, NO,!!!!" he shouted into the crowd, we are not going to come together. "The Jews have made money on us in the music business and we are the entertainers, and they are economically enslaving us"<br /><br />He continued as to how now the salvation has come and the gates have open for African Americans to come together behind Barack Obama, because now is the time to show them.(meaning thejews). He continued to speak about ' White supremecy' vs the talents and visionaries in the core of African Americans. He demeaned being given freedom, by saying "To what?" to a country that kills women and children.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-55924924130481538202011-04-11T17:08:35.799-07:002011-04-11T17:08:35.799-07:00I just don't see this happening, Whiskey.I just don't see this happening, Whiskey.CamelCaseRobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-82250234382433211832011-04-11T16:53:25.581-07:002011-04-11T16:53:25.581-07:00This is absurd. Jews love Israel--they just hate I...This is absurd. Jews love Israel--they just hate Israelis.But even the nastiest SOB prick slob Israeli is a jew and even the nicest,smartest,cleanest goyim is still a GOY to the kikes! Sammy Power is a left wing POS.(BTW,seeing her marrying Cass Sunstein(!!!!!),isnt that a blow to all your "women hate beta males",and "intelligence is a chick-repellent"stuff?)The Jewish left wing may want peace and detest militarism but they are ardently jewish. Obama wanting to bomb Israel?? LOL! Obama is,like all civil rights blacks,with the exception of Farrakhan,completely submissive to jews and would be lost w/o them. Look at the blacks kissung Rahm's ass in Chicago. What ni--oops,I mean blacks want,is to be made equal to the WHITE MAN. Then their shame will be eased,then they imagine even more sexual access to white women,even more money for even less work,and revenge on Y-T.They will happily "bow"(they seem to be good at that. As they used to say about the Nazis,they are either at your feet or at your throat.) to the jews to get that. PS:Farrakhan (sp??)actually changed my life. The nite I saw his bizarre appearance on the Arsenio TV show,where he stated that the jews owned more slaves than the whites. He was vilified the next day of course,but in fact he was right;this was the 1st I had ever heard of the Holy Innocents as being slavers. Give Louie some credit!joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-1193857685949531892011-04-11T13:00:18.009-07:002011-04-11T13:00:18.009-07:00Never happen. AIPAC owns Congress, both Dems and R...Never happen. AIPAC owns Congress, both Dems and Repubs.<br /><br />Sure, Barry went around Congress with the Libya thing, but he won't be able to pull off the same thing with Israel. Even the Dems will vote for impeachment.Dack Thrombosisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-74717779687843939092011-04-11T12:47:34.749-07:002011-04-11T12:47:34.749-07:00Wow, Whiskey, you've really outdone yourself.
...Wow, Whiskey, you've really outdone yourself.<br /><br />You really are stupid. You know that, right?<br /><br />Btw, I'm not sure, but I think the Jewish vote for Obama was closer to 80% than 70%.<br /><br />As for Israeli Jews being whiter than white, well maybe it's just me, but other than a sprinkling of Ashkenazi types I'd be hard pressed to tell Israelis, Syrians and Lebanese apart. <br /><br />I also like the fact that between his anti-Semitic fits, Barry put yet another Jew on the supreme court, chose the Jewish son of a militant Zionist as his Chief of Staff and got yet another Jew to run his campaign. Let's not forget bailing out Goldman Sachs, probably the biggest source of Jewish financial power outside of the federal reserve.<br /><br />Maybe he's keeping his enemies closer...?<br /><br />The fact Whiskey (plus several commenters) thinks that an Israeli no-fly zone is anything more than a David Duke wet dream is mind-numbing.Really?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-69294113438432950052011-04-11T12:33:29.420-07:002011-04-11T12:33:29.420-07:00I should also point out that bombing a nation that...I should also point out that bombing a nation that has a lot of nuclear weapons seems insane to say the least. Obama destroying Israel seems so nuts in the face of that. Most of the U.S. would be against it. Most of the U.S. establishment would be against it. Whiskey, have you been taking some potent substances?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-10736027592909523512011-04-11T12:24:09.221-07:002011-04-11T12:24:09.221-07:00Hidden Author -- Obama is not very smart. Thinking...Hidden Author -- Obama is not very smart. Thinking things through is not one of his strong points, witness his total lack of focus on delivering say, patronage to those inclined to oppose him (the military and contractors, blue collar White men, etc.)Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-53694648023384585762011-04-11T12:23:03.254-07:002011-04-11T12:23:03.254-07:00Jeff, that's true, but the Israeli Air force f...Jeff, that's true, but the Israeli Air force flies mostly our fighters, which we know well. Up against the most modern F-22s our own guys say the F-15 and F-18 have no chance. That has been the experience in war games.<br /><br />Anon yes Jews are White. They may not be White in the way of Frenchmen, or Italians, or Danes, but be assured they are White. Beleagured Europeans who view themselves as the Chosen People? There is a reason a Jewish Heresy (Christianity) appealed so much to Pagan Northern Barbarians. Who in hearing the Bible saw themselves. This is why Evangelicals (who read the Bible far more than Catholics or mainline Protestants) instinctively identify with the sorts of people who are the heroes of the Old Testament. Rather than say, Egyptians.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-12424871825282372732011-04-11T12:05:18.434-07:002011-04-11T12:05:18.434-07:00What if Israel "objects" to such treatme...What if Israel "objects" to such treatment by irradiating the Arab oil fields depended on by the world for its supply of oil? Don't you think Obama and the Democrats in general may be thinking about this possibility?Hidden Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05039410618383593927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-19552554583581526022011-04-11T11:11:37.329-07:002011-04-11T11:11:37.329-07:00This sounds like paranoia of the highest scale at ...This sounds like paranoia of the highest scale at this point. I don't believe it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-85242137777925461672011-04-11T10:42:33.602-07:002011-04-11T10:42:33.602-07:00"No one is Whiter than Jews" ???
Say wha..."No one is Whiter than Jews" ???<br />Say what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-24688650701984024732011-04-11T10:22:08.721-07:002011-04-11T10:22:08.721-07:00One small problem: he can order a no fly zone if h...One small problem: he can order a no fly zone if he wants, but we can't enforce it without serious losses. Libyan Air Force <> IAFJeff Burtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18068021849429001560noreply@blogger.com