tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post2708093399720140424..comments2024-01-25T15:09:03.714-08:00Comments on Whiskey's Place: NBC's Diversity Bet FailsWhiskeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-91378725604402896342011-12-06T08:01:01.053-08:002011-12-06T08:01:01.053-08:00It will not succeed as a matter of fact, that is w...It will not succeed as a matter of fact, that is what I consider.www.islas-baleares-3d.comhttp://www.islas-baleares-3d.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-75579829607417230212011-07-18T12:09:53.627-07:002011-07-18T12:09:53.627-07:00I forgot to mention the lesbian theme in "The...I forgot to mention the lesbian theme in "The New Adventures of Old Christine", who was that supposed to appeal to? Surely not even lesbians found it amusing, though they might approve of it as an attack on traditional marriage and morality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-57147457190851649532011-07-18T12:05:52.388-07:002011-07-18T12:05:52.388-07:00I occasionally watch a rerun of "The New Adve...I occasionally watch a rerun of "The New Adventures of Christine" late at night. I never watched it while it was on prime time because I was turned off by the racial themes in the show. (The show I watched last night featured the joke of Christine drunkenly calling her ex-husband and telling him that "he was the best white man she ever had.") This show could have been a success but I'm sure the racial aspects of the show turned a lot of people off, and I don't think much of that racial angle (the romance with the black teacher, for example) was done to reach an audience, I think it was done because of the social and political convictions of the show makers. They pushed these lines regardless of the effect it might have on their success. Hollywood, and to a lesser degree television, has a long history of spending vast amounts of money and effort pushing agendas even when no one wants to see them ("Salvador"). You can't put it all on attempts to capture this or that demographic - they believe, and since they have no real organized opposition in the long run they are able to push many of their beliefs through. That's what keeps them trying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-73712519916060320452011-07-17T11:01:21.132-07:002011-07-17T11:01:21.132-07:00All those wonderful shows cancelled? Gee, what a ...All those wonderful shows cancelled? Gee, what a shame. <br /><br />Reminds me why I don't watch anything on TV except horse racing and cartoons.<br /><br />- EverymanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-26108003135398606792011-07-13T22:50:01.345-07:002011-07-13T22:50:01.345-07:00Hey Robert the Wise:
I liked Whiskeys answere bet...Hey Robert the Wise:<br /><br />I liked Whiskeys answere better. His anti football blub seemed out of place. <br /><br />Anyways I dont believe they are laughing at me, I dont pay anything unless you count watching commercials, most packers seem to like their fans, they should get paid whatever they can get away with for doing their "job" just like anyone else in a free market, some people actually enjoy watching them do their job, and not all blacks want to stick it to whitey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-25614048860726540022011-07-13T16:44:39.813-07:002011-07-13T16:44:39.813-07:00glad to see you back whiskeyglad to see you back whiskeyralivnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-36784145629327680612011-07-13T11:16:23.459-07:002011-07-13T11:16:23.459-07:00From Australia, glad to have you back Whiskey.From Australia, glad to have you back Whiskey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-90764690681261996972011-07-12T21:22:31.208-07:002011-07-12T21:22:31.208-07:00Hello Whiskey:
I already know you from another bl...Hello Whiskey:<br /><br />I already know you from another blog. Excellent piece above!I retained particularly the mention of the "Sci-Fi" new serie " "Undercovers", because instinctively when I saw previews on NBC, I told my bf that it would fail miserably.<br /><br />I never studied marketing, but I believe I can intuitively assess trends. If "Undercovers" had been presented as a Kafkaesque nightmare/dark ( all puns intended ) comedy, it could have fared much better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-78526850026167980182011-07-11T16:00:32.045-07:002011-07-11T16:00:32.045-07:00Welcome back, Whiskey. I thought we had lost you ...Welcome back, Whiskey. I thought we had lost you for good.<br /><br /> <br /> July 8, 2011 11:34 AM<br />Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "Even so that network will have a huge Sunday night hole if the NFL (hopefully) remains on lockout"<br /><br /> Why is that? Football is the only sport I watch, and that is because I like the packers. Without football there is no sport on TV worth watching IMO.<br /><br />Anonymous, why do you like the Packers? Do you think they like you? Do you think the Packers give half a fuck about the travails of Anonymous' life? Are you a Big Fan?<br /><br />Grow up. Stop caring about a bunch of retarded steroid freaks.<br />They're not playing for you.<br />They're playing for a paycheck the likes of which you'll never see.<br /><br />They're laughing at you for being a sucker who pays them millions to play a child's game.<br /><br />And don't forget: the black players will always be up for a game of Beat Whitey, Knockout King, or Polar Bear Hunting. Good thing you're paying their defense attorneys.<br /><br />Robert the WiseRobert the Wisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-71293418979858252482011-07-10T19:16:33.446-07:002011-07-10T19:16:33.446-07:00@ Bootsie
I'm beginning to notice the same tr...@ Bootsie<br /><br />I'm beginning to notice the same trend (less black male / white female couples, less beta men as morons) even here in French-speaking Quebec.<br /><br />Advertisers probably thought this approach would endear them to their target market i.e. white females. Maybe those white guys sitting beside them finally got tired of this and started complainingGreatWhiteNorthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-72302836133187756572011-07-10T13:45:30.416-07:002011-07-10T13:45:30.416-07:00"Eventually, one network will have to take a ..."Eventually, one network will have to take a chance to break from the pack.... Sooner or later someone at a network will take a gamble on men, and provide a staple of cheap, entertaining, and amusing male-skewing shows... Those are the stories men of all ages are interested in, and are almost completely absent on the TV screen every night." <br /><br />You and others have done a thorough job of documenting Hollywood's overriding committment to boring, ideological diversity. An attentive TV viewer can easily figure out the "diversity rulebook" of the industry.<br /><br />But what if that rulebook isn't informal? What if it's written down and enforced?<br /><br /><br />If there is a monopoly in an industry, it's often because there are government penalties suppressing competitors or perverse financial incentives for people to toe the line. It's not just social status jockeying.<br /><br />What if entertainment networks cannot break away from the diversity mindset because of regulatory pressure? What if they are like an Eastern European factory required to produce only left-footed shoes?<br /><br />Let's look into the laws and bureaucracies that help the diversity monopoly. <br /><br />NBC's 30 Rock itself spoofed some of the political hoop-jumping in the NBC/Universal/Comcast merger <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=642&q=comcast+merger+diversity+agreement" rel="nofollow">diversity agreement</a>. Lots of patronage and quota-like requirements there.<br /><br />The California Film & Television Tax Credit Program requires applicants to fill out a form "to illustrate the <br />diversity of the workforce employed by the applicant during the production." (A similar credit requirement appears to be active in Illinois, Rhode Island and who knows where else).<br /><br />And check out the <a href="http://www.sag.org/content/for-producers" rel="nofollow">DIVERSITY-IN-CASTING INCENTIVE</a> of the Screen Actors' Guild, which affects production costs for productions which set aside "A minimum of 50% of the total speaking roles and 50% of the total days of employment" for women, seniors, the disabled, or "people of color."<br /><br />The EEOC also has its hooks in Hollywood: "The EEOC works to address matters of interest to SAG performers from the following racial/ethnic groups — African American, Asian/Pacific Islander, Latino/Hispanic and Native American Indian. The EEOC explores ways to promote more diverse casting and enforce the contractual policy of non-discrimination and fair employment," the SAG website says.<br /><br />Since California and other key moviemaking states also ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gay activists can just use the same diversity bureaucracy to agitate for plot and casting decisions as well as for characters they like.<br /><br />These penalties and incentives must be particularly intimidating to the new filmmaker or TV producer who has better things to think about than diversity. It's no wonder our entertainment industry can be so uniform, and it's why I'm less optimistic about the prospects for change.Kevin J.http://kevinjjones.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-91353245429902832892011-07-10T04:58:26.735-07:002011-07-10T04:58:26.735-07:00Nice to have you back blogging,Whiskey.Speaking of...Nice to have you back blogging,Whiskey.Speaking of TV, has anyone else noticed the recent reduction(not elimination) in commercials which feature stupid betas as well as the automatic pairing white women and black men?<br /><br />How about those Dogers?bootsiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17734073239537196629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-59716557837393583782011-07-09T15:44:43.639-07:002011-07-09T15:44:43.639-07:00But at CBS there is "Blue Bloods" which ...But at CBS there is "Blue Bloods" which has strong male characters, good-conquers-bad story lines and even a religious sensibility (the Irish family goes to church, is friends with priests and says grace before meals). One can hope this is a harbinger of better TV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-3038500767900374002011-07-09T06:27:20.953-07:002011-07-09T06:27:20.953-07:00http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/magazine/the-dar...http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/magazine/the-dark-art-of-breaking-bad.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-44337912544916130052011-07-08T20:08:22.626-07:002011-07-08T20:08:22.626-07:00Whiskey, do you have anything to say about the BBC...Whiskey, do you have anything to say about the BBC series "Being Human" that airs on SyFy? Somehow, they've managed to make boring a show featuring vampires, werewolves, and ghosts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-80820343818141182212011-07-08T18:24:00.897-07:002011-07-08T18:24:00.897-07:00This what DVD/Blu-Ray movies, box sets and big scr...This what DVD/Blu-Ray movies, box sets and big screen displays are for. I can watch what films and TV series I want and don't have to rely on the hopeless drivel the television networks and Hollywood try to peddle nowadays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-81117150751638736552011-07-08T14:48:49.543-07:002011-07-08T14:48:49.543-07:00Anon -- I hate Michael Vick, so anything that keep...Anon -- I hate Michael Vick, so anything that keeps him off my TV for a year is good. Besides I'd like to see the College game take down the pros a peg or two. Going without the Giants or Colts or Saints for a year is worth it to shake up the nets and the NFL.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-28096024419695472112011-07-08T14:24:52.258-07:002011-07-08T14:24:52.258-07:00NBC also ran Columbo, arguably the best detective ...NBC also ran <i>Columbo</i>, arguably the best detective show ever. Sure, it had a cast of villains as white as Westchester Co, but there was no offensive moral preening written into the dialogue to turn off audiences.<br /><br />Interestingly, Spielberg directed the premiere episode of <i>Columbo</i> (not the two prior made-for-TV movies), and he also directed the excellent Duel, with Dennis Weaver. So the man could do good TV one upon a time.Polichinellonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-18725665498514581812011-07-08T14:05:25.351-07:002011-07-08T14:05:25.351-07:00"Even so that network will have a huge Sunday..."Even so that network will have a huge Sunday night hole if the NFL (hopefully) remains on lockout"<br /><br />Why is that? Football is the only sport I watch, and that is because I like the packers. Without football there is no sport on TV worth watching IMO. Are you worried football will end up like baseball where the teams with the most money will always dominate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-41416607943377393322011-07-08T11:34:56.694-07:002011-07-08T11:34:56.694-07:00Sooner or later someone at a network will take a g...<em>Sooner or later someone at a network will take a gamble on men, and provide a staple of cheap, entertaining, and amusing male-skewing shows. The country will be better off, because traditional male-oriented shows for the most part must embody fairly conservative values. Honor your word, show physical and emotional courage, stand up and fight, protect the weak, punish the wicked. Those are the stories men of all ages are interested in, and are almost completely absent on the TV screen every night. Let's hoping those stories return soon.</em><br /><br />Well this will only happen when network execs have reason to believe such a demographic is likewise watching television and its conjoined commercial advertising in profitable droves, which of course is not happening. Such a demographic as you describe is doing anything but sitting in front of TV's.An Unmarried Manhttp://www.phoenixism.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-46199189008265867182011-07-08T05:55:48.782-07:002011-07-08T05:55:48.782-07:00Great to have you back & commenting on culture...Great to have you back & commenting on culture. Do you think powers will take off? I've detected some uber feminist/multicultural themes in bendis work, beyond the stilted dialogue & sex. <br /><br />Of course, what none of the networks will admit is that their public domain fairy tale shows are rip offs of Willinghams Fables, but why give a conservative artist a chance unlike the utterly nihilistic & expensive game of thrones. Conservatives geeks who didn't know GRRM were loving the series which was infuriating and funny.Julesnoreply@blogger.com