tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post3476846942979695588..comments2024-01-25T15:09:03.714-08:00Comments on Whiskey's Place: Hollywood's Financial CollapseWhiskeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-77825207400190267742012-01-18T02:12:06.318-08:002012-01-18T02:12:06.318-08:00Quite worthwhile information, thanks for your post...Quite worthwhile information, thanks for your post.muebles madridhttp://www.camobel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-72081937551725593622009-10-13T12:18:40.867-07:002009-10-13T12:18:40.867-07:00"The scientist called "Rush" is BSG..."The scientist called "Rush" is BSG's Gaius: the traitorous scientist"<br /><br />Amusing to think that the model of the scientist in "Who Goes There?" (er... I mean "Thing from Another World" (1951), should be chosen by the SciFi (er, SyFy) channel as the most skiffy, most popular, most relevant model of scientist.<br /><br />Oppenheimer is more influential than Teller after all, at least artistically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-84419884927220748852009-10-13T10:58:41.656-07:002009-10-13T10:58:41.656-07:00Whiskey,
You hit spot on when you called out majo...Whiskey,<br /><br />You hit spot on when you called out major media bureaucracies in media, but you are missing the other end -- American consumer product companies.<br /><br />Large organizations provide niches for value-subtracted idiots to hide in, and bureaucracies to protect them.<br /><br />The US economy is a consumer-driven economy. <br /><br />American consumer products companies no longer know how to appeal to the 40% of their market composed of straight males because their in-house advertising departments seem to be dominated by people for whom straight males are a threat, i.e., women and gay males. (See also "value-subtracted idiots.")<br /><br />How that came to be is not pertinent. <br /><br />What is pertinent is that the people who make the advertising buys for American consumer products companies are now entrenched and, since they are not straight males, <b>they can't be fired without violating lots of state and federal employment laws.</b><br /> <br />The only people who can be lawfully discriminated against in employment are straight white males, so they are. This is particularly true in the advertising business and most especially Hollywood.<br /> <br />Thus ensuing the inability of American consumer products companies to appeal to 40% of their market will reduce economic growth, as the US economy is consumer driven.<br /><br />In order to renew their ability to aspeal to 40% of their market, you have to have American consumer products companies replace their marketing departments at the same time as the new small Baen-like internet entertainment companies create broad based internet hits with pro-male and women neutral media content.<br /><br />This double coincidence will be hard to come by as it is far easier to fire (and not hire) straight white males in Hollywood, Big Media and big American consumer product companies in the current legal and economic environment.Mil-Tech Bardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11654312581130984629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-64038722478774414632009-10-13T10:58:27.414-07:002009-10-13T10:58:27.414-07:00Whiskey,
You hit spot on when you called out majo...Whiskey,<br /><br />You hit spot on when you called out major media bureaucracies in media, but you are missing the other end -- American consumer product companies.<br /><br />Large organizations provide niches for value-subtracted idiots to hide in, and bureaucracies to protect them.<br /><br />The US economy is a consumer-driven economy. <br /><br />American consumer products companies no longer know how to appeal to the 40% of their market composed of straight males because their in-house advertising departments seem to be dominated by people for whom straight males are a threat, i.e., women and gay males. (See also "value-subtracted idiots.")<br /><br />How that came to be is not pertinent. <br /><br />What is pertinent is that the people who make the advertising buys for American consumer products companies are now entrenched and, since they are not straight males, <b>they can't be fired without violating lots of state and federal employment laws.</b><br /> <br />The only people who can be lawfully discriminated against in employment are straight white males, so they are. This is particularly true in the advertising business and most especially Hollywood.<br /> <br />Thus ensuing the inability of American consumer products companies to appeal to 40% of their market will reduce economic growth, as the US economy is consumer driven.<br /><br />In order to renew their ability to aspeal to 40% of their market, you have to have American consumer products companies replace their marketing departments at the same time as the new small Baen-like internet entertainment companies create broad based internet hits with pro-male and women neutral media content.<br /><br />This double coincidence will be hard to come by as it is far easier to fire (and not hire) straight white males in Hollywood, Big Media and big American consumer product companies in the current legal and economic environment.Mil-Tech Bardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11654312581130984629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-42323152752382183632009-10-12T20:23:24.208-07:002009-10-12T20:23:24.208-07:00njartist:
My god, SGU stinks. It's a naked a...njartist:<br /><br />My god, SGU stinks. It's a naked attempt to replicate BSG, but they somehow managed to leave out everything that made that show bearable. I know I won't be watching another minute of it after that first episode.Lawful Neutralnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-83775608264672027382009-10-12T14:19:05.989-07:002009-10-12T14:19:05.989-07:00Yes, NCIS: LA is unwatchable.
I will say the same...Yes, NCIS: LA is unwatchable.<br /><br />I will say the same for the new Stargate show: SGU has been turned into Battlestar Galactica; the males have been weakened; those who should be leaders are uncertain; The scientist called "Rush" is BSG's Gaius: the traitorous scientist. I knew the writers had ruined the franchise within the first fifteen minutes when one of the female civilians manhandles a military officer demanding to know where they are.<br /><br />In the first two series, the scientists where held in check by responsible military authority. the shows made clear that exploration of the unknown is best undertaken in a disciplined manner. The clearest example of this is the SG1 episode where in the Dr. Cater character undertakes the mentoring of a genius Air Force cadet by taking her off world; where the group comes under attack by energy creatures because a rogue scientist who refused to obey protocols.dienwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16878081733638742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-41146708180204733562009-10-11T18:01:36.599-07:002009-10-11T18:01:36.599-07:00You don't need TV for that.
Just look at corp...You don't need TV for that.<br /><br />Just look at corporate ads or university brochures.<br /><br />Out of 10 people, maybe 4 will be white, and the rest will be, depending on geographic location of the university, black, hispanic and asian. Regardless, at least 1 member of the aforementioned minorities needs to be depicted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-10143938811133523522009-10-11T14:00:42.060-07:002009-10-11T14:00:42.060-07:00Supercop,
About half the TV is black. Flip through...Supercop,<br />About half the TV is black. Flip through channels 2-80 sometime. About half the channels have a black face on them (if not several). Wait a few seconds on the rest and usually you'll see someone black. From watching TV, you would think the USA is 50% black.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-53728673732243674352009-10-11T09:24:28.632-07:002009-10-11T09:24:28.632-07:00Have you seen this?vHave you seen <a href="http://www.newsinfilm.com/2009/10/08/kevin-smith-may-have-funding-for-red-state/" rel="nofollow">this</a>?vMoggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035653140290389242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-49356221104193741932009-10-11T08:51:32.102-07:002009-10-11T08:51:32.102-07:00Very interesting post. The Hollywood community ha...Very interesting post. The Hollywood community has to adapt if it is to remain viable.Jamaicafesthttp://www.jamaica-fact-fest.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-2384194497432123572009-10-10T10:21:17.728-07:002009-10-10T10:21:17.728-07:00An old life insurance salesman wrote once some thi...An old life insurance salesman wrote once some thirty years ago: "If you sell to the masses you eat with the classes--If you try to sell to the classes you starve."virgil xenophonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509453343705968903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-55967770093536279462009-10-10T09:39:34.868-07:002009-10-10T09:39:34.868-07:00first page of la times's porn article- it'...first page of la times's porn article- it's cached, but clearly even this info is free and available in the internet age such that no la times subscription is necessary:<br /><br />http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ML8vdULt0I0J:www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-porn10-2009aug10,0,4788614.story%3Ftrack%3Drss+porn+decline+la+times&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-58052218292029034582009-10-10T09:06:09.543-07:002009-10-10T09:06:09.543-07:00whiskey, you may have already reported on it, but ...whiskey, you may have already reported on it, but here is an article from the la times discussing the rapid decline of the porn industry:<br /><br />http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:6Ze8E0BZUEQJ:www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/business/la-fi-ct-porn10-2009aug10,0,4269185.story%3Fpage%3D2%26FORM%3DZZNR3+porn+decline+la+times&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a<br /><br />the porn industry blames free internet content and piracy. music, newspapers, movies, porn... are all affected by these two factors. <br /><br />you may be right that there are other (anti-male, politically correct) cultural factors at work as well. however, the confluence of all such etiologies is resulting in the hastened demise of the old media. <br /><br />it is by no means clear that the old media will be able to find a successful mechanism to transition to new media offshoots- given the digital constraints which would still affect them.<br /><br />-freak showAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-70705645987890449602009-10-10T08:40:42.518-07:002009-10-10T08:40:42.518-07:00Hollywood will continue to lose more money because...Hollywood will continue to lose more money because they're unable to change their PC ways, they're a dinosaur and the smaller, nimble mammals that are springing up (the internet, internet games, content in different locations) will survive.<br /><br />Good riddance.Talleyrandhttp://seasonsoftumultanddiscord.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-62916165095137233332009-10-10T05:59:01.542-07:002009-10-10T05:59:01.542-07:00Nice post.
Hollywood's financial collapse... ...Nice post.<br /><br />Hollywood's financial collapse... <b>can't happen soon enough</b>!<br /><br />Die Monster Die!!!Tarlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-57753910719249266902009-10-09T19:26:02.284-07:002009-10-09T19:26:02.284-07:00Whiskey, with Hollywood being such a target-rich e...Whiskey, with Hollywood being such a target-rich environment, why repeatedly single out Land of the Lost? Did Will Ferrell steal your girlfriend or something?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-1813101507136698612009-10-09T14:34:20.439-07:002009-10-09T14:34:20.439-07:00Yes, it's true that Roth's movies are wort...Yes, it's true that Roth's movies are worth maybe 25 cents. At the most. Even that is pushing it.<br /><br />Cannon's Canon: Good points on Japan. The third generation has been unable to really compete on the global stage, for example Sony manufactures almost all of its stuff outside Japan, making its laptops and TVs and such overpriced (same cheap Chinese factories and questionable quality). For example, Sony, the creator of the Walkman, has nothing to rival the Ipod. Nothing that connects to any computer, will play nearly any format (Ogg, FLAC, MP3, AAC, etc.) and with an easy-to-use interface.<br /><br />Apple, manufacturing almost nothing (its done in China by contract manufacturers) has become a huge consumer device player with the Ipods and Iphones by simple human interface design and marketing. [The last time I was in an Apple store it was packed -- almost entirely with young women too.]<br /><br />NCIS: LA is awful. At one point a guy stops from shooting another guy to let him take a phone call. LL Cool J plays an ex-Navy SEAL. Only one problem, there are very few Black Navy SEALs. Or Black Spec Ops guys in the first place, generally. For whatever reason it seems to attract White guys the most, with a smattering of Hispanic guys. <br /><br />Watching the two NCIS variants makes one realize how much of the original depends on the byplay between Harmon and Weatherly in the original, the older, gruff mentor and the younger version of himself. With a "light" touch of humor and bantering that turns on a dime to toughness upon occasion. <br /><br />Neither show will blow anyone away with the writing, but the first has far more capable actors than LL Cool J and Chris O'Donnell, who simply cannot carry the show.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-49865807971952259432009-10-09T02:45:38.515-07:002009-10-09T02:45:38.515-07:00The problem is that with the people currently in H...The problem is that with the people currently in Hollywood and its entire culture, Hollywood cannot adapt to the new age.<br /><br />The people who are there did not get there because they were capable of providing what people wanted, they are there because at the time people and the heads of Hollywood wanted what they provided.<br /><br />Even those who were not initially yuppies had to adapt to the prevalent culture in Hollywood.<br /><br />The culture feeds the people and the people feed the culture, which is why it is so hard for anything to change.<br /><br />So the only thing that will change Hollywood is a wholesale bankruptcy and a fading into irrelevance of the established stars. A rise from the ashes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-28641208967412628952009-10-09T02:17:22.670-07:002009-10-09T02:17:22.670-07:00Speaking of Hollywood disasters, has anyone seen &...Speaking of Hollywood disasters, has anyone seen "NCIS: LA".<br /><br />Awful.<br /><br />The "NCIS" model of an older white guy leading a team of young poeple responsibly has been completely dropped. An old woman leads the group. A black lead shares power with a white lead. Plots are PC and predictable.<br /><br />Oh...get this. The latest episode of NCIS: LA had a cougar scene and a plot modification that insisted a woman gets a man by playing "hard to get." <br /><br />Awful...just awful.Truth(er)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-30646715344618354162009-10-08T20:44:04.040-07:002009-10-08T20:44:04.040-07:00Your mention of Hollywood's nepotism intereste...Your mention of Hollywood's nepotism interested me in terms of a relation to the economic trajectory of post-WWII Japan. With more grand consequence, Japanese banks and businesses overextended capital to an inner circle without accurately assessing risk. This lack of underwriting due diligence seems to mirror the thick-headedness of American cinema's faucet of crap media.<br /><br />In Japan, the third generation of this system was ultimately met with a wall of stagflation. I assume that Hollywood's downward spiral can last longer, perhaps an extra 20 years, because it is leveraged to a lesser extent with what are ultimately public funds (i.e. a failed bank is more nationally impactful than a failed studio). The death may come slowly if a reform is not made.<br /><br />There is some hope though within this nepotistic decline. Japan's longstanding stagflation has been prolonged by a refusal to shame failed ventures with such dishonors as firings, foreclosures, and bankruptcies. This is somewhat unique to Japanese culture; a business might prefer to suffer with a toxic asset on its books than to purge it and move forward. As soon as Hollywood is willing to abandon a failed business model, reform and, to an extent, profitability can be implemented.Cannon's Canonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-5491136415960462582009-10-08T20:34:12.497-07:002009-10-08T20:34:12.497-07:00Whiskey, this is one of your best. The media will...Whiskey, this is one of your best. The media will simply not accept the fact that they are producing an overpriced, inferior product, with overpaid, inferior performers.<br /><br />It is also obvious that these insular, arrogant people have no interest in changing a thing.Stannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-17930754622681438992009-10-08T18:07:35.992-07:002009-10-08T18:07:35.992-07:00Nice post, Whiskey.
One obvervation: If DVDs of E...Nice post, Whiskey.<br /><br />One obvervation: If DVDs of Eli Roth's movies are on sale for 25 cents in Mexico, it's because that's where they belong and what they're worth. <br /><br />ZhombreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893665144141962944.post-42142155527904574102009-10-08T15:12:05.411-07:002009-10-08T15:12:05.411-07:00Broadly appealing content? Like anime? There are...Broadly appealing content? Like anime? There are several Asian countries hopping on Japan's coat-tails and trying to get famous for their broadly appealing content, which is mostly animated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com