Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Gays Vs. Jews: The Brett Ratner Defenestration

The firing of Brett Ratner by the Academy Awards from the job as producer of the Oscar Telecast, and the fawning apology extracted from him by GLAAD (Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Discrimination) and other Gay groups, shows who really runs Hollywood. The female audience!


Ratner, the director of the upcoming Eddie Murphy/Ben Stiller action-comedy "Tower Heist," along with the "Rush Hour" series (starring Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker) and the final modern-day X men movie (X-Men: The Last Stand) was fired from the show after saying in an interview that "rehearsals are for fags." He then was forced to issue several groveling apologies. You can't get much more Jewish than Ratner, who spent High School according to Wikipedia in Israel. But Jews do not run Hollywood, rather it is gays, or rather the female audience that likes gays very much.


The CW actress (from the revival of "90210") Jessica Lowndes has released a song where she wishes she was gay. That's her to the right and above btw. Lady Gaga got her start, and rakes in tons of money, by appealing to gays. Katy Perry released "I Kissed a Girl," and Simone Battle released a song and video entitled "He Likes Boys" about an unrequited crush on a gay man. You could argue that nearly all Broadway shows, the X-Factor, American Idol, the Sing-off, the Voice, and all the other musical competition reality shows are big gay wonderfests aimed directly at women.

Even Tony Kushner is more gay than Jew. Kushner is very anti-Zionist, has advocated a single state in place of Israel and the Palestinians, and Zionists sought unsuccessfully to prevent him from being honored with a honorary doctorate at Brandeis University and there was an abortive attempt by City University of New York to revoke his honorary degree over anti-Israel statements. Barbara Ehrenreich among others rose to his defense. Kushner married Mark Harris, an editor at Entertainment Weekly, in Provincetown NY in 2008. Kushner's work in in the screenplay for Steven Spielberg's "Munich" is pretty much in accord with Queers for Palestine. Most gays are fairly anti-Israel and also anti-Jewish.

A goodly portion of the "alternative right" is mired in conspiracy theories, the main one being that the West fell into disrepair and despair, filled with PC nonsense, low fertility, mass non-White immigration, multiculturalism, and disgust at the culture and history and heritage of Western Civilization ... because of those "devious Jews!" In their view, those devious mind control rays just took over the poor helpless and defenseless West. Others hold that Gramscian Long Marches (the original was a desperate, fighting retreat not advance) through institutions allowed "mind control" by corruption.

I hold that either explanation, either "those devious Jews" or devious Frankfurt School intellectuals (Andrew Breitbart's view expressed on the Adam Carolla Show) are at fault, nor is some combination the reason for the West's decay.

Rather, it is broad social forces, moved by technological changes that impact marriage, family, spending, wealth, and other factors that has led to this state of affairs. In other words, history as it has always been -- broad forces affected in the exact wave by individual valor and cowardice, often in surprising ways. Individuals can and do make differences, both for good or bad, but cannot fundamentally change the tides. The way people marry, have kids, create wealth,consume wealth, make war, peace, and trade has the most effect on society. Not ideas that the vast majority including elites have only the most fuzzy grasp upon. If you went back in time and queried Castillian Grandees of the fifteenth century, on the Holy Trinity, only a few would have been able to understand it and explain it to you, and probably none what the Albigensian Heresy of a few hundred years prior had been. That's the elite.

Let us look at Jews in America today. Clearly, they do not run Hollywood, otherwise the concerns of Jews (assimilation versus losing one's identity and Jewish heritage) would be paramount in movies and TV. Every second movie would be Exodus and Steven Spielberg would have made "Munich" in the style of Sylvester Stallone's Nighthawks. Ratner would have won, not lost, the contest of strength against the gays. TV and movies would be filled with positive Jewish characters and positive portrayals of Israel and America. Movies like Yankee Doodle Dandy, produced by Jack Warner would predominate.

That moment has clearly passed, with gays now being the "new Jews." Most Jews today hold mildly anti-Israel, anti-Zionist sentiments (as evinced from the results of the efforts to punish Kushner) at best, awash as they are in the Yuppie mold of modern liberalism. The casual anti-semitism of modern liberalism as epitomized by Occupy Wall Street shows up in most Jews wishing that Israel would simply go away. Being as it is an embarrassing, working-class reminder of ethnic and unfashionable identity that is as "un-cool" as the battered easy chair of Frasier Crane's father on "Frasier."

Now, "Glee" features overt teen gay sex, and gay-themed characters and plotlines are everywhere. The GLAAD report on 2011 TV shows:

"While the number of LGBT characters is down, some of the most popular shows with critics and viewers such as 'Glee,' 'True Blood' and 'The Good Wife' weave storylines about gay and lesbian characters into the fabric of the show," says GLAAD's acting president, Mike Thompson. "... Americans expect to see the diversity of our country represented in their favorite programs and that includes gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people."

FOX is the most inclusive network, according to the GLAAD study, with LGBT characters representing about 7 percent of the population on its scripted series. "Glee" has several prominent gay roles, and "Bones" and several of the network's animated comedies feature LGBT characters as well.

GLAAD counted 19 gay characters among the 647 series regulars on broadcast series set to air in 2011-12 (although that number could change a little as details about characters are revealed), along with an additional 14 recurring LGBT characters.

On "mainstream" cable networks (not including channels like Logo whose focus is already on the LGBT community), GLAAD found 28 regular LGBT characters, down from 35 in last year's study. The number of recurring characters rose, however, so the total of 54 is in line with 53 last year.


Why is this? Why are gays so popular? Why is GLAAD more powerful than Brett Ratner (who has a successful career and has given Eddie Murphy a job, a favor Murphy returned by resigning as host of the Oscars)? Its because of the domination of TV and movies by the female audience. Which is very friendly to gays.

Women find gay men interesting (and author "slash fiction" whereby straight characters like Captain Kirk and Spock have gay sex). And also, fabulous. Not being interested in them sexually they are men whom they can deal with on a non-stressful basis. The result of a vastly extended mate market, with women "on the market" and "available" for years and years, leads to fatigue with constant approaches by men they find sexually invisible. Gay men offer a relief from that, the niche filled by brothers and fathers when the nuclear family existed.

Gay men's appeal to women is at least in part driven by the failure of the nuclear family, and declining birth rates, leaving many women single children bereft of male relatives. Gay men offer the next best substitute.

Gay men further only have cultural power in the way that Jews during the Golden Age of Hollywood had cultural power -- by offering stories and themes and creations that appealed to enough of a mass audience. It is true that Lady Gaga made a fortune appealing mostly to gay men and women. And that Tyler Perry made the most money last year of anyone in Hollywood. But few White people go to see Tyler Perry's movies, and his formula for success is to make cheap movies that only Black people are interested in seeing. He's the only one out there competing for that audience, so he gets pretty much most of it no matter how poorly executed his films are. Lady Gaga in twenty years will be as forgotten as Debbie Gibson is today. The same for Justin Bieber.

Meanwhile Jews like Siegel and Schuster exerted immense cultural influence (even if they mostly got cheated for creating Superman). The same with Jack Kirby, or Stan Lee, and the other nearly all Jewish writer/artist creators of comic book characters. By offering tales of nerdy guys who never got the girl transformed into heroes, they found a fairly wide group of guys (nerdy White guys who never got the girl) who lived vicariously through these (often faintly ridiculous) characters. The current flipside is the Twilight phenomena, where girls and their Moms lust after sparkly semi-gay pouty vampires. Following an ordinary girl who gets the hunkiest man alive (and has the second-hunkiest fighting the hunkiest for her favors). Even his vampire babies! This from another "niche culture" (Mormon Housewife) author. Just as Louis Armstrong taught a lot of White kids to swing, because he provided dance music, in the Depression, as did say Duke Ellington, Jews and Mormon housewives when offering stuff that a substantial portion of the population loves, can transform the culture.

For Jews in Golden Age Hollywood or Comic Books, it was a Yankee Doodle Dandy story of assimilation and simultaneous embrace of immigrant roots. Superman WAS American to the core, because he was (basically a variant of Moses delivered as a baby to the Promised Land -- America!) For Stephanie Meyer it was the longing of everygirl to get that one guy every girl dreamed of. For White teens in the Depression, it was dance, dance, dance. When the need was met, the culture was transformed into the specific shape of the individual artist. Respect for a master musician who made you dance, and was Black. Embrace of America and the Flag, with a living super-Flag. Getting that hunky guy by being special and magic (OK maybe the last is not so healthy). The need when filled changed things. But the need had to exist.

Tyler Perry is not going to change the culture. Neither is Lady Gaga. Katy Perry might, because millions of girls like her and want to be her (not the least of which is Mr. Katy Perry, Russell Brand). Gays are changing the culture because they are filling the need of millions of women. Who want tales of effortless sex with hunky guys and fabulous fashion, a life of eternal singlehood and choice (Sex and the City, originally written by Gay men for a Gay cast). Or stories of vampires, rich kids, and other hunks to drool over. Or fabulous singing and dancing where your native talent overcomes plain looks to land that hunky guy (Glee). Egged on by a fabulous best gay friend.

Gays writing and creating just for Gays, on their own, would be like Siegel and Schuster creating "Gefilte Fish Man" who has the magic power to eat as much Gefilte Fish as possible. Of no interest to pretty much anyone outside of the creator's group. Gays exist as a power group, more powerful than Jews (see Ratner, Brett, and the defenestration of) in naked power struggles because they deliver more of the desired audience: women. Who very much like their gays, thank you very much, which way is the next showing of "Wicked?"

And all of this is really just a reflection of social reality. Nerdy guys made Superman a hit from the first issue, along with many other comic book characters, because he filled that need. As did Twilight. Gays only exercise more power than successful producers (who are also Jewish as it gets) because they are beloved of, and deliver to advertisers and producers, the female audience. Who cast in very long lasting singleton choice-hell, demand tales of hunks and guys who will never hit on them, but offer sound advice on how to nail that Alpha.

The solution then, given that gays tilt wildly left (and demand a general libertine undermining of society that is in direct conflict with not only straight White guys but social health for everyone) is to change the conditions that give them power. Gays are not powerful because of their numbers or innate fabulousness. They are powerful because the specific condition of millions of single or late married women make them so.

Women generally happy with their husbands don't care much about gays. Even if only children, they inherit in-laws, helpers with child-care, and a husband they care about and can confide in. They don't need fabulous consumption and fashion and girlfriends and endless courtship to get the emptiness inside filled up, family and husbands do that already.

The solution is thus blindingly obvious and tremendously difficult. The restoration of the nuclear family. Nearly all the ills of modern society, the decline of the West, would be arrested if not reversed by the restoration of the nuclear family. This means generally, women marrying at an age (around 19-25) when they can get the best man available. And staying married, for the most part. This is extremely hard, because modern society has enormous incentives for women to stay single as long as possible chasing Alphas. To the detriment (maybe) of the women involved and of society as a whole unquestionably.

Women giving this enormous power to gays is neither normal nor healthy. At no time in the past has this ever happened in the West. It bodes ill for the stability and wealth generation of the West.

37 comments:

The Social Pathologist said...

Good post.

Jules said...

Brett Rattner, just another hostage to GLAAD like Tracy Morgan.
I like how Lady Gugga or Katy Purry will preach spirituality, charity and socially conscious issues in person while every one of their songs is about banging boys and partying hard.
I've talked to a few gay republicans and they find it most interesting that no one in the media asked Jerry Sandusky whether he was gay or not. The rumor being that Sandusky's activities were suppressed out of fear that he was having sex with a gay player in the shower or that if it really was a boy that he was black.

"Circus dogs jump when the trainer cracks his whip, but the really well-trained dog is the one that turns his somersault when there is no whip." - George Orwell
Orwell wrote that when pro-Stalin publishers in Britain (some were friends of his) essentially blacklisted the manuscript of Animal Farm. Unlike his near-arrest by Stalinists in Spain, there was no conspiracy against Orwell. The left-leaning publishers knew it would be a controversial book and rejected it on its face.

Whiskey, you've mentioned on Big Hollywood that audiences have gotten more conservative, not liberal with time because there's a bigger choice of what part of the culture to subscribe to today. How do you see that rising conservatism (if any) affecting the return to the nuclear family culture?

Anonymous said...

Fascinating post, Whiskey!

moneybagzz said...

Great to have you back.
What took you so long?

Meaningful post. Gotta deliver the goods, meaning the female audience.

Pander!
Pander!!
Pander!!!

Perpetual Alpha Seeking Females > the death of Western Civilization.

Women want to marry the Government of France - handsome men, inexhaustible indulgences, blind eye to affairs.

Looking forward to the next post.

Anonymous said...

I think part of women liking gays is simply that they both service the phallus. There is a natural fellow feeling.

On Jews, i had watched several episodes of Numbers before I realised that the Eppes family were meant to be Jewish. I am Australian, so maybe I miss nuances. I can see that the father acts and looks Jewish, but the boys had never registered with me as Jews.

David Collard

bitter clinger said...

Good post.

Though I can't discount the influence of the Frankfurt school as you do. Back in the 20s in Hungary, they exposed kids to sex and homogayness at a young age with the stated aim of destroying nuclear families, this indoctrination goes on today and predates the 60s when technology first allowed the women to get out of control.

Also, the chick pictured looks like a lanky, awkward teenage boy, the ideal form for fags.

propercharlie said...

Very good article. I've been watching how the war is raging in white gentrifying Washington DC between gays/women and blacks. Normally allies there are signs of big problems ahead. The Washington Examiner reports: D.C. hate crimes target LGBT groups, where the number of attacks on lesbians is increasing and already much higher percent than national average.

Its amazing to me how we now speak casually of "hate crimes" vs. what? love crimes? Its not about rule of law anymore but not allowing a "protected group" with an ax to grind to feel bad about itself.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey,

At the end of the second last paragraph, you say that the fact of women staying single and chasing alphas as long as possible is unquestionably bad for society as a whole, but only MAYBE bad for the women themselves.

In reality, endless alpha chasing is VERY BAD for women for the following reasons:

1. The more alphas a woman has bedded, the lower her sexual market value drops and the less likely she will ever be married, let alone happily married

2. The longer a woman stays single, the less attractive she becomes as a result of the aging process and the less likely anyone will want to marry her

3. The longer a woman stays mateless, the lower her fertility drops and the less likely she will have kids

4. Women who enjoy sex with a variety of irresponsible alphas will not likely be happy with a responsible beta; if she marries a responsible beta, she is more likely to cheat and divorce him and wind up alone and miserable

5. Women who enjoy sex with many alphas while in their twenties are more likely to end up alone and bitter at age 45, with cats in their lives instead of a husband and children; I remember walking around downtown Ottawa during the evening on Christmas Day last year and I saw a lonely forty-something white woman sitting alone in a Starbucks. Sad.

Whiskey said...

Anon -- I don't dispute those points, but I hesitate to impose my judgment on others on how they live their lives. I would not want them telling me not to drink that second cup of coffee. I have to assume that they know their lives better than me.

In aggregate though, those choices do matter. An individual woman generally does not matter, getting married young to the best man available and staying married, or Alpha-chasing. The cumulative effects IMHO do matter though.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey,

One of the major problems with our world today is that we don't impose judgments on each other. We live in a relativistic world in which one person's lifestyle is not inherently worse than anyone else's and therefore can't be criticized. This kind of thinking is symptomatic of the decline of western civilization. Through the anonymity of the internet, we need to do more moralizing, not less.

In order to save western civilization, we need to inform individuals, in no uncertain terms, that some behaviours are good and some are bad. We need to pedestalize [though in moderation] young women who insist on virginity before marriage. We need to reintroduce slut shaming. Slutty females should be slapped around and then sent to live in a convent. Notorious alpha male players should be cornered by gangs of men and then have the crap beaten out of them.

I know this is harsh treatment in this day and age, but strong measures are needed to arrest the slide of western civilization into the abyss.

No Show said...

You can't get much more Jewish than Ratner, who spent High School according to Wikipedia in Israel. But Jews do not run Hollywood, rather it is gays, or rather the female audience that likes gays very much.

Clearly, the people who run Hollywood and the media are overwhelmingly Jewish. It's almost a form of psychosis to deny it.

Ratner wouldn't be in a position to be fired in the first place if he wasn't Jewish. A Brett Jones from Christian middle America wouldn't get a toe let alone a foot in the door.

Gays probably out number Jews in America 2 to 1, guessing a 4% gay 2% Jew population. Yet clearly Jews are far more common in the Hollywood and media power structure. And the most powerful gays are often Jewish, see J. Katzenburg.

Most gays are fairly anti-Israel and also anti-Jewish.

Any evidence for this absurd claim??

My sense is that ultimately Jewish Hollywood/media power has elevated homosexuals in part because it is a way to thumb their noses at traditional White Christian American morality which they see as "not good for the Jews".

Whiskey, I think your typical "All Roads Lead To the Evil White Woman" explanation has more to due with your personal sexual issues and your status as a White omega virgin and very little to do with the reality of power in America.

A goodly portion of the "alternative right" is mired in conspiracy theories, the main one being that the West fell into disrepair and despair, filled with PC nonsense, low fertility, mass non-White immigration, multiculturalism, and disgust at the culture and history and heritage of Western Civilization ... because of those "devious Jews!"

No, it's ... because of those "devious WHITE WOMEN!"

The ultimate conspiracy!!!

Whiskey said...

No Show -- See the link in the post "Queers for Palestine" and the Kushner details. Gays don't like Jews or Israel very much. Not the least of which is that they don't like traditionalist and religiously based criticism of gay conduct. Gays depend on an endless libertine sexual behavior, and thus traditional Zionism and Jewish thought is a threat to them like traditional patriotism and Christianity (see Bradley Manning, the Wikileaks guy, poster child for gays in the military).

Gays march around San Francisco with anti-Israel and anti-Jewish signs all the time. That's Gay Central, ground zero, so it is what it is.

In a naked power struggle in Hollywood, gays pushed out Jews. Michael Ovitz, Brett Ratner, lost. Both were big time guys, with lots of connections, power, and the ability to help or not help people. But they lost. Just as Tracy Morgan was forced to give a groveling apology. Its not a function of gays themselves, rather the power of the female audience.

You're focusing on the wrong thing. Ad-hominen arguments pretty much confirm the arguments I make. Its the equivalent of the SPLC shouting "racist" at Steve Sailer or VDARE.com. I'm either right or wrong. Shaming language is for women, trying to suppress un-cool ideas.

That's the problem with White Nationalists, caught up in White Knight fantasies, and denial about the problem. Japan is now determined, after the Earthquake, and Tsunami, and disasters, to ... import thousands of Thai workers and let them live there. And no nation is absent Jewish influence entirely more than Japan. But like every other nation seeking competitive advantage it has liberated women. Which is a good thing, until aggregate choices without a built-in governor speed the body politic into "steroid" overdrive.

I don't want to boss women around. I'm too lazy and totally unqualified as is every human being to order another around in their daily life. I argue for social governors of aggregate choices, like the pressure not to drink and drive. That does not reach Mexicans, say, but does cut down on the number of White drunk drivers. Since I drive, I like that.

DaFarmerY'all said...

If jew gays are anti-Israel,I dont have a clue. I know secular jews dont like the superjews,and since the super jews really hate gays,I can see some animosity there. But this was not a jew vs gay showdown. Ratner,trying soo hard to be down with the colored,thats his "shtick" like a lot of jews: to suck up to blacky,like Rick Rubin,who made lots of money off rap,used the F word. So he had to grovel.But if he had tried to use his jew-card as a shield,"Hey guys,its cool,I'm a jew like you" he wouildve been doubley screwed. If a gay,like that dress designer in France who drunkenly confessed a fondness for a certain man with a lil ole moustache,syas something anti-jew,he gone! being gay didnt protect him. So Hwood has lots of fruits;they always have. like lennybernsteins bizarre and freaky lionization of Mahler demonstartes,jews who take it up the ass are still jews!!

Anonymous said...

If they were capable of not being absurd, they wouldn't be promoting their vomit on the blogosphere.

Anonymous said...

@bitter clinger
Kindly decouple your mouth from Ferenc Szalazi's rotten penis.

No Show said...

Whiskey said...
No Show -- See the link in the post "Queers for Palestine" and the Kushner details. Gays don't like Jews or Israel very much.


Again there is simply no evidence for this categorical claim.

Jews are on average FAR more tolerant of homosexuality than other ethno-religious groups. Gays know that. Extremely religious Jews are a minuscule minority in the world, and a minority in Israel as well.

Gays march around San Francisco with anti-Israel and anti-Jewish signs all the time.

Obviously THEY do not.

That's Gay Central, ground zero, so it is what it is.

Again, wrong. LA and NYC are more likely to be gay central, if there is such a thing.

In a naked power struggle in Hollywood, gays pushed out Jews. Michael Ovitz, Brett Ratner, lost.

Again, Jews continue to be in charge, continue to control Hollywood and media power and continue to run operations from top to bottom, no pun intended. And gay Jews are right there with there non gay Jewish brothers and sisters.

You're focusing on the wrong thing. Ad-hominen arguments pretty much confirm the arguments I make.

Your lack of critical thinking, dogmatism and female-phobia is pretty obvious to everyone, even your fellow White omega virgins.

Your problem is you simply look for any data that CONFIRMS your personal fears and despair based prejudices. Any evidence to the contrary is a threat and denied.

I don't want to boss women around. I'm too lazy...

Nobody claimed that. The point is your personal pathology is clearly behind your bigoted anti-women prejudices. You are to women what an anti-semite is to Jews. You just can't come to terms with that truth.

For you all roads lead to a demonized White women, her rejection of you and other White omegas (who mislabel themselves Betas), her destructive choices, her influence in breaking down social systems that you and other White omegas think are the foundation of White beta civilization.

That's not a rational world view. Immunizing Jews from any criticism, walling them off as a chosen superior people and then demonizing White women as the ultimate cause of White civilization's downfall is wrong. It's bigoted, irrational, Judeo-racist and rooted in personal sexual inadequacy projected onto the larger world.

Anonymous said...

Really, why do people care what some fuckwit blogger thinks about Jews?

JohnC. said...

Jews run Hollywood, full stop. Ratner would have been fired just as quickly if he had said nigger, just because one Jew is fired for a Politically Incorrect moment is irrelevant as an indicator of Jewish influence in Hollywood. In fact, the issue is race, the fear and genocidal hatred of the white majority and the West - pro-gay is a weapon in that war. Ratner is collateral damage. And the female audience could be served by non-Jews in Hollywood just as well as by Jews, yet the gross over-representation of Jews remains.

While we're waiting for the restored nuclear family, I'm sure you'll agree with me that it would be a good idea for the government to begin applying affirmative action laws to what is clearly a pattern of discrimination by Jews in Hollywood and Television. Say limit the number of Jews in any media job category to (let's be super generous here) 5%. Shouldn't all of us have to obey the same laws? Who knows, maybe allowing other voices in the media will help restore the nuclear family, and help with other social problems as well. Certainly it would relieve you of the burden writing pieces like this. No more worry about "devious Jews" conspiracy theories. You could then concentrate you efforts at debunking the influence of cultural Marxists (we can't apply affirmative action retroactively, though, can we!) You might even be able to get back to studying Scotch-Irish history.

Let me say in passing that Jews, and others, who object to applying affirmative action laws to Jews in the media, who pretend that Jews don't dominate the media (like out-and-out liar Abe Foxman) don't do so as a matter of economics, they're not worried that these media Jews will end up on the street, they oppose AA and pretend there's no Jewish hegemony in Hollywood and TV precisely because they know that those Hollywood Jews push a pro-Jewish, and anti-Gentile agenda. They're defending their privilege at the expense of their victims. An expense up to and including murder and rape.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious that women - white women - are the primary audience being catered to. Just look at primetime TV. Every show revolves around white women. And for all of TV's diversity, almost all of the diversity shown on TV is male diversity. All the women are still white. Whenever there is a gruop of guys, there is always, black or Indian, or asian representation, but whenever it's women, it seems they are always all white.

Anonymous said...

Next thing you're going to do is tell me Jews run the economy. Want proof that they don't? The people in charge are deliberately sabotaging the economy, and that would be very bad for the Jews. If Jews ran it, they'd just fix the damn thing so the bloggers would shut up the fuck up.

Whiskey said...

Here's Queers for Palestine:

"As queers, we are part of an international movement for human rights that encompasses the movement for Palestinian liberation, and all other liberation movements. We are also part of the growing international movement seeking active ways to express our solidarity with the people of Palestine."

Kushner, who is gay, supports a "one-state" (i.e. "Jew Free Palestine"). You can't get much more anti-Israel than that.

Here they are in New York City ("Queers against Israeli Apartheid"):

Bruce Bawer, an openly gay man on Gay support for anti-Israel jihad:

"The odd thing is the support of gay groups for Islam. We had a bit of a local furor recently when a gay, anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian organization marched in Toronto’s Gay Pride Parade. Bawer dissects other examples of this odd phenomenon."

Gays DO march around SF all the time with anti-Jewish/Israel signs, look at them all on Zombietime's website. You can see them in Toronto, in Europe, in NYC, pretty much everywhere. SF is self-evidently Gay Central.

And you don't seem to be able to read very well. White professional women make RATIONAL short term choices that are extremely destructive to society. You seem to take a White Knight approach to how families are formed, social pressures exerted, and wealth made and spent.

Jews don't matter. There are not that many of them, they intermarry like crazy, and lose their identity rapidly. If you don't like Jews, just wait twenty years, there won't be any left. You are looking for some magic-bullet conspiracy theory ignoring how technology, economic changes, and consumerism have driven deep societal changes.

What is the more accurate explanation for changes in Germany, Japan, (where thousands of Thais will be immigrating, basically), Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Spain, where there are none to almost no Jews? Deep global social changes in women's incentives, or "those devious Jews?" Who cannot even keep their own borders intact anymore (they're fleeing from African illegal aliens in Tel Aviv!)

Last time I looked, neither John Corzine nor Barack Obama are Jews. Nor is Warren Buffett, nor is Bill Gates. If "Jews controlled the economy," they'd have been doing better. They would not have fallen for an obvious con like Madoff. Nor has anyone explained to me how importing millions of Muslims into Europe, and now into the US, is "good for the Jews." Nor backing Black guys like Obama, a pal of Farrakhan. [Indeed, Jewish support for Obama DESPITE his detestation of Israel and its existence lends credence to the theory of complete SWPL assimilation by Jews, to the point where they have no more separate cultural/ethnic identity than German ancestry folks.]

peterike said...

If "Jews controlled the economy," they'd have been doing better. They would not have fallen for an obvious con like Madoff.

Actually, most of Madoff's marks were Jews, thanks to the "he's one of us" effect. But whatever. Madoff is a piker in the scheme of things.

On a more entertaining note, everybody catch the recent South Park about Broadway? They did this hilarious inversion of everything, where Broadway shows are designed to hypnotize women into giving their men blowjobs, and all the major show writers -- Sondheim, Elton John, AL Weber -- were secretly a gang of heterosexual, masculine "Bros" deliberately working to get men hummers. There were so many layers to the story it was amazing. What a piece of work. Makes me think Trey Parker reads Whiskey.

Anonymous said...

"South Park" and "hilarious" don't belong in the same sentence.

whorefinder said...

A great analysis, Whiskey. Glad you're back.

I would quibble about Lada Gaga disappearing, however. The history of pop music in the last 100 years shows that ugly female singers/celebrities who cosy up to gays have perpetual careers, no matter how poor their work. Fanny Bryce, Barbara Streisand, Mae West, Liza Minnelli, Bette Midler, and Madonna all fit the mold: ugly chicks who deliberately made gay men their fan base, and, as a result, were perpetually "in the news" and gossip columns and had long-lasting careers. Their songs and get-ups and "antics" (staged and tired events, in reality) were designed first and foremost to keep gossip-swilling, fabulous, fey gay men fawning over them.

Lada Gaga, herself an ugly woman (catch a glimpse of her enormous schnozz and man-jaw if you can find a decent pic), is following that course directly----in fact, she's almost following Madonna's career note-for-note. Most of her "outfits" draw attention away from her ugliness, and are designed by her fag-manager to make her seem "outrageous." And let's not forget "Born this Way", a paean the the political gays newest rallying cry ("homosexuality is genetic!"), which, curiously, was a stance vilified by gays as late as the late 1980s. Not to mention "Poker Face", which Lady Gaga claims is about her being ambiguous about her sexual preference.

Unfortunately, these Queen Fag Hags become long-lasting cultural touchstones, even if their contributions are meaningless. After all, facts may show that Mae West was a terrible fat actress and singer, but we still all have heard some variation on her famous line in a film (said to Cary Grant, whom she claimed to have discovered), "Why don't you come up and see me sometime?"

sestamibi said...

Whorefinder, you left out Judy Garland (Liza Minnelli's mom), and Cher.

Whiskey, thanks once again for taking on the nitwit antisemite trolls who blame all the world's problems on a rapidly shrinking (you called that one correctly, I'm sorry to say) Jewish population. We will indeed disappear in about twenty years, and we're too far gone to turn that around.

No Show said...

Known Zionist and big-time studio mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, on the other hand, is working hard to make Israel a standard destination for Hollywood’s elite – or at least for Hollywood’s elite comedic voice talents. Last year, he arranged for Jerry Seinfeld’s much-examined visit to Israel to promote his Bee Movie.

That's the very GAY, very Jewish, very rich, Mr Hollywood Jeffrey Katzenberg.

No, he's not Scots Irish or WASP and no he's not anti Israel.

And he's not alone. Jews run Hollywood and gays don't hate Israel.

And sorry, White women don't hate, hate, hate, beta White males.

These are painful truths that for whatever reason remains threatening to you.

whorefinder said...

@sestamibi:

I don't consider those two as Ugly Queen Fag Hags because

1) Judy Garland didn't emerge from a gay-playing background or play to gays in her songs and movies. What drew gays to her were two things: her appearance in the Wizard of Oz, which many gays used as a touchstone of gayness; and her tragic alcoholism, which took a huge physical toll on her---but she nevertheless persevered in her career---mirroring gay men hiding their homosexual tendencies. But Garland didn't play to gays.

2) Cher was very nervous, until the 1990s, about having such a gay following and never played to them until the 90's. It was only when her managers pointed out their huge draws and when gays became more accepted that she embraced her faghagdom. She was always a good-looking woman, although her naturally thin frame and husky voice deeper than her husband's (Sunny Bono) drew gays towards her as her androgyny. Gays liked her because of slighter masculinity, that many of her songs are classic faggy "torch" songs, and that she started wholesale with plastic surgery. But Cher was never a Bathhouse Betty or Mae West---who deliberately sought out gay establishments to play at.

Anonymous said...

Whiskey, I very much agree with your analysis, I just want to point out one factual error I saw in one of your comments: John Corzine is Jewish, as a matter of fact.

I'm always amazed, reading sites like Alt Right, American Conservative, Mangan's, and Taki, how so many guys who write there somehow think that American Jews are raving Zionist hawks. The truth is, these days, even most liberal American rabbis (i.e. Reform & Conservative - not the Orthodox) are actually verging being ANTI-Zionist. The Jews that the traditionalist/white-nationalist/HBD/alternative right-wingers hate so much - Tony Kushner types, to use one of your examples - despise Israel just as much as Taki or Richard Spenser, or are at least mortified to be associated with it. In fact, most Israeli Jewish intellectuals are actively anti-Zionist now. I get the feeling that people on the anti-Israel Right have never met an actual American Jew. Of course, I sometimes get the same feeling about pro-Israel conservatives.

Anonymous said...

With regard to the previous comment (which I left) - I just googled the question, and it appears that Corzine is NOT Jewish, in fact. Sorry.

Kaz said...

Wow, Murphy actually resigned from hosting?

That's pretty damn respectful.

Anonymous said...

"Tower Heist"

-Team diversity steals from those rich white bankers that screwed everything up.

Anonymous said...

"If "Jews controlled the economy," they'd have been doing better. They would not have fallen for an obvious con like Madoff.

Actually, most of Madoff's marks were Jews, thanks to the "he's one of us" effect. But whatever. Madoff is a piker in the scheme of things. "

http://www.sipc.org/media/release01July09.cfm

"As such, the amount of SIPC funds committed in the Madoff liquidation exceeds the total amount paid in the previous 11 largest SIPA liquidations."

The Securities Investment Protection Corporation does not exist to protect ponzi schemes. Madoffs investors were investing in him, they did not have him running an index fund for them. They should not have been given anything by the SIPC.

Svigor said...

So, if an Indian says something the Chief doesn't like, the Chief can't be running the tribe? Sounds like a perfect encapsulation of your "logic."

Did a woman even fire him? Was there even a woman anywhere in the chain of command involved in firing him? Just curious, btw; a "yes" would not validate your "logic."

What if Hitler had fired one of his subordinates for badmouthing Mussolini? Suddenly, Germany's an Italian province?

Your arguments are nothing if not consistently hare-brained.

Svigor said...

because of those "devious Jews!"

Well, in part anyway. You remind me of the environmental determinists who call HBD-ers genetic determinists because they split the influence between genetics and environment. Pot, meet kettle. Like the environmental determinists who have to strawmanize the actually more nuanced, balanced view of their opponents when it is they who are the determinists lacking balance and nuance, you have to strawmanize the position of rightists who attribute leftoidism to a Yankee-Ashkenazi coalition into an ANTI-SEMITIC!!! determinism, when it is you who lack all balance and nuance and reach right for your "everyone but the Jews" schtick.

Tell me, who created the Culture of Critique? Scots-Irish lesbians?

Svigor said...

Rather, it is broad social forces, moved by technological changes that impact marriage, family, spending, wealth, and other factors that has led to this state of affairs.

When historians explain the fall of the western empire, they must also explain why the eastern empire went on another thousand years.

Similarly, when Whiskey explains the "broad social forces" destroying the west, he must explain why they aren't destroying Japan.

He still has no answer for why Japan isn't flooded with men from the more studly populations of the world (which includes practically all of them).

But he should. Otherwise his "theory" is shit.

Svigor said...

Let us look at Jews in America today. Clearly, they do not run Hollywood, otherwise the concerns of Jews (assimilation versus losing one's identity and Jewish heritage) would be paramount in movies and TV.

Is this where you actually try to support an argument, for once? Yay!

Every second movie would be Exodus and Steven Spielberg would have made "Munich" in the style of Sylvester Stallone's Nighthawks.

Ratner would have won, not lost, the contest of strength against the gays.

Why? The concerns of Jews are far more in alignment with using homosexuals as a wedge against White America than with Ratner's career interests. That's how taboos work; even your own troops must obey them. If the Fuhrer says Germany is allied with Italy, Colonel Sauerkraut doesn't get to call Mussolini dirty names in public.

You sure your IQ's over room temp?

TV and movies would be filled with positive Jewish characters and positive portrayals of Israel and America. Movies like Yankee Doodle Dandy, produced by Jack Warner would predominate.

No, portrayals of Jews would serve Ashkenazi interests, which is what we see; Jews are generally portrayed as the good guys, innocent victims, etc. (Always keep in mind the "relativistic" nature of TV and movie morality; "good" means "better than the bad guys"; hence, "good guys" like Bruce Willis' stock and trade who are drunks, can't keep their wives, etc).

Why would Ashkenazis portray America positively? That would lead to more uppity, nationalistic Whites, which is the OPPOSITE message from what they want to send. They don't want uppity, nationalistic Whites, they want self-abnegating, ultra-individualistic Whites who, above all, should be persuaded against organizing socially along any of the organizing venues he's likely to pursue (hence the Ashkenazi hostility to Christianity, which is forefront among the historical organizing avenues of Whites). When America is portrayed positively, it should be along the "Captain America" mold, where America is good because it's diverse and multicultural and tolerant-unto-suicide.

That moment has clearly passed, with gays now being the "new Jews." Most Jews today hold mildly anti-Israel, anti-Zionist sentiments (as evinced from the results of the efforts to punish Kushner)

What nonsense. You're just flat-out lying here. And as usual, you drag up one anecdote as if it proves anything (other than the fact your "logic" is hare-brained).

Why is GLAAD more powerful than Brett Ratner

Because GLAAD represents a demographic (according to leftoids, a group to which all but a tiny fraction of Ashkenazis belong), and Ratner is just one guy. Duh. What are you, a moron?

Wow, Jesus, you just keep going and going with this. I can only take so much stupidity in one day so I'll stop here. As ever, your only virtue is your fascinating ability to ignore logic and stick to your stupid "mind control ray" talking points.

Svigor said...

That's the problem with White Nationalists, caught up in White Knight fantasies, and denial about the problem. Japan is now determined, after the Earthquake, and Tsunami, and disasters, to ... import thousands of Thai workers and let them live there. And no nation is absent Jewish influence entirely more than Japan. But like every other nation seeking competitive advantage it has liberated women. Which is a good thing, until aggregate choices without a built-in governor speed the body politic into "steroid" overdrive.

Whiskey, don't conflate insults with ad hominem attacks. I demolish your "logic" consistently; don't try to flatter yourself by conflating that demolition with the insults I hurl at you. I hurl insults at you because you're an ass and I don't like you, not because I think they demolish your arguments. A demolition is a demolition; the insults are for my own personal satisfaction.

As for "White Knight" WNs, oh give it a rest. You have exactly 0 instances of me "White Knighting." None. Zilch. Zero. Nada. Demolishing your absurd attempts to throw women under the bus to save Jews is not "White Knighting," you clod. But even if they were, at least "White Knighting" is an attempt, even if misguided, to get a lil pussy. What do we call what you do? What do we make of a guy who gives Jews head every chance he gets?

Japan, Japan, Japan. Thy nemesis, Whiskey! Look at your desperate attempts here. Japan has no immigration problem, and no Jews. And this is evidence that Jews don't cause immigration problems, in your philo-Semitic Bizarro World.

Totally...nuts. Bonkers!